tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5739019190085095899.post6584067316462489172..comments2023-04-06T15:36:44.279-04:00Comments on Gender Variance in the Arts: The Crying GameZagriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15124379637664963835noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5739019190085095899.post-31132313668110186072015-10-29T10:34:37.762-04:002015-10-29T10:34:37.762-04:00" After Jody is killed, his guard, Fergus, sl..." After Jody is killed, his guard, Fergus, slips away over the water and gets a job incognito on a building site in London (here the old stereotypes of Irish-English relationships are embraced in full, although the reality of the 90s was that Irish workers in England were increasingly well-paid white-collar workers). "<br /><br />_________________________________________________________________<br /><br />The assertion (above) is not correct. <br /><br />Irish people — Irish men — were still very much working in manual labour in London, in the early 1990s. This is the period in when the film is set. <br /><br />I know from my partner's relatives, who emigrated from rural Ireland to London and southeastern England in the late 1980s and early 1990s, that Irish labour was very much a feature of life in London and southeastern England, in this period. <br /><br />Also, i lived and studied in south London, central London, west London and north London in the early to mid 1990s. I met many Irish people, recent migrants, that were working in manual and semi-skilled labour, i.e. workers in a laundrette. <br /><br />The phenomenon (and reality) of Irish people working in 'white collar' employment — e.g. in engineering, financial services, computing — was (to a far greater extent) a characteristic feature of London in the *late 1990s* and beyond. <br /><br />The effects of Ireland's economic 'growth' were not realised until the mid to late 1990s. <br />In the late 1980s and early 1990s large numbers of Irish people, specifically Irish men, were still emigrating to the United Kingdom, especially to London and parts of southeast England. The Irish immigrants of this era were working primarily in manual labour and semi-skilled labour positions. <br /><br />In no way is this a 'stereotype' of Irish people living and working in London, in 1992. The depiction is (in fact) quite representative of the reality in this period. <br /><br /><br />Also, the character of Fergus (played by Stephen Rea) is a soldier in the provisional IRA. <br /><br /><br />Overwhelmingly, the soldiers {subordinate soldiers} serving for the provisional IRA are educed from working class backgrounds. In the {early 1990s} period that is depicted in the film, the working class men (— and sometimes women) serving as soldiers in the IRA were working primarily in semi-skilled and manual labour positions. <br /><br />Again, this is both congruous and representative of reality. <br /><br />christopherAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10168009063231200750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5739019190085095899.post-64758555140617185592015-10-29T09:48:49.890-04:002015-10-29T09:48:49.890-04:00oh, I don't agree with this at all.
Miranda ...oh, I don't agree with this at all. <br /><br />Miranda Richardson uses a very solid (county) Tyrone accent in this film — and it is actually quite precise. <br /><br />I cannot think of one scene in this film in which her { Ulster accent really 'wavers'.<br /><br />Are you from Ireland or the province of Ulster ? <br /><br />My mother's maternal family is from Connacht.<br />My partner's paternal family is from this part of west Ulster. <br /><br />He was very impressed by Miranda Richardson's voice / accent in the film. <br />As he says, most 'Irish' accents used ( attempted ) in contemporary cinèma 'go all over the place'. <br />Frequently, they are not credible — indefinite, inaccurate. <br />Sometimes ridiculously so. <br /><br />Miranda Richardson's Ulster accent is generally excellent in The Crying Game.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10168009063231200750noreply@blogger.com